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D: I'm an attorney in Austin, Texas, and I work for the state of Vermont.Previously I worked for Vermont Yankee, before the Compact was entered into.

 O: What is your mission?

D: I was originally hired by Vermont Yankee to help Vermont get into a compact with Texas so that they would have a place to put their radioactive waste once they were ready to dispose of it and decommission some day.

 O: Could you explain the role of the different stakeholders in the process of the disposal radioactive waste?Who participates in this process?

D: The stakeholders really involve the states who are part of the compact, Vermont and Texas and at that point Maine.The community that was interested in having the facility. The people who didn't want the radioactive site in Texas.There was the Sierra Club, Texas SEED (?) coalition, Public Citizen I think is one of them.There were several groups.There were legislators from different parts of the state.Some of them were for it.Some of them were against it.This was a little bit unusual because this community really wanted it.This was what made the difference in Texas.Andrews County was supportive by and large of this facility.I think that's why it was sited there.

 O: What was the motivation for the local community, business interests, money?

D: I think that WCS was very strategic in enrolling community support before they started the company. They came at a good time when there were not many jobs.People were really wanting jobs.When you go tomorrow, you will see that there is no unemployment there.They are used to oil, a lot of oil-related jobs, which are dangerous, inherently dangerous, and they have a lot of hazardous waste associated with oil jobs.At one time the oil jobs had gone away.So they were really looking for a new source of revenue.I think that's what it was.

 O: What is your role as a representative of Vermont here?It does not look very good when one state moves the problem to another state.

D: Well that's how the US government set it up.They didn't want to have 50 different sites.They decided that regional sites would be better, or just a few sites would be better than 50 sites.And by the time that Vermont and Texas were left, all the other states had gotten into compacts, they just haven't successfully sited them.Only in Barnwell, South Carolina, that's pretty much the only one that's going right now.And they've cut it off to the rest of the world.

 O: How many sites will there likely be here in the U.S.?

D: I don't know that there will ever be another one.I think we've been the first successful low-level site. Vermont was left, and they have such a little bit of waste. The way Texas felt about it, it was better to get into a state with a little bit of waste, than be in a relationship with a lot of waste. So this way they can take just Vermont's and say no to anyone else.Or say yes, they can have control.

 O: I'd like to ask you about the regulations. Transport, from one state to another. Or you have special regulations at the state level.

D: Yes, yes, and yes.There are national regulations, but there are also state regulations as well. And our state legislature has passed rules and laws that say that the state can pass stricter regulations than the government, the national government.So today you heard someone from the department of state health services talk about state regulations as well as national regulations that they must follow.There's coordination between states.It could be better, but it's pretty good.

O: When you're transporting nuclear waste, you're following roads.Do you have any agreements with the states which provide the transport?

D: You know, I'm not probably qualified to answer that.I know that the companies that transport have to follow each state's rules, and the national rules.You'd have to ask the companies that transport.

 O: What is the role of the municipality if the municipality is against it?

D: You mean, against the transport?

 O: No, I mean the location of the radioactive wastes.

D: Before the facility was located in Andrews, there were several other sites that were considered.And when there were public protests, they weren't sited there.

 O: They weren't?

D: No.There was a place called Fort Hancock, this is probably in the 80s.And it was not sited there.There was a place called Sierra Blanca, and it was supposed to go there, but ultimately it was not sited there, because it was so close to Mexico.So there were international reasons it just didn't end up going there.So if there is too much public outcry, the municipality .... but in Andrews County, the municipality wanted it.It's a big difference when the municipality and all the public officials wanted it.

 O: Is it possible to say no to the transport?

D: No, so far no one's been able to say no because those roads don't belong to the municipality.The roads are interstates and the guy testified today that some high-level waste from WIPP, to WIPP, have to be on interstates.And interstates are, I think, federal.So they can't say that you can't come through my municipality.